Low lifes that wash their sewer hose at water con.

[Gary B]

Its a good idea to have a spray bottle of chlorine water mixture with to spray down your water connetion before hooking up as some low life may have stuck his sewer hose over it to wash the hose down! We came across this a cople of days ago, not having a spray bottle with we requested and got another site, all around the fresh water faucet was toilet paper and other signs, not nice! Happy trails GB <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>



Edited by - Gary B on Oct 26 2001 8:32:04 PM

[Dador]

Couldn't agree more! In fact I always spray down the water hook up before connecting. There are many ways for bacteria to get the hook up outside. Animals for one. For a few extra seconds it better to be safe and reduce the risk of contaminating the enire rv system.

[jcs]

I think I will be more careful hooking up my water from now on.

[Kirk]

What we do is to keep a small spray bottle of water and chlorine bleach, mixed at about 1/4 bleach and 3/4 water in the plumbing bay. Each time that we hook up, I spray the water connection with the bleach/water and let it set that way while I connect the electricity. Then I attach the water hose.


Good travelin! ......Kirk
www.1tree.net/adventure

[candie25]

Fantastic Idea!!!!!!!
Never thought about will now
Thank you:):)

Candie25

[Southstl]

I agree, but I was tired of smelling like clorox, so I started using Lysol. Works the same as clorox, just spray where you need it and let it stand for a few seconds. I even spray our own drain hose after each use.



'01 f250 CC PSD
'00 Rockwood TT
2 minature Dachshunds
http:// www.texasboomers.org

Edited by - Southstl on May 07 2002 8:37:00 PM

[fjohn56]

Excellent Idear!! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Does anyone also flush the toilet after you have dumped, but still hooked up? I have found that it helps to clean the Black tank a little more thoroughly, and gets rid of any clumps of sh*t that might still be adhering. :)
John Keep RVing!!

[BarbKC]

Diluted bleach is an excellent disinfectant but it works best in a 1-2% solution. This is about a tablespoon per quart. At stronger concentrations it is LESS effective. At the proper concentration you don't get as bad a "bleach" odor either.
BarbKC

[Southstl]

:)
BarbKC, I will give that a try. Your solution has to be cheaper than what I am doing now.

Steve

'01 f250 CC PSD
'00 Rockwood TT
2 minature Dachshunds
http:// www.texasboomers.org

[drummerman]

I never really thought about using spray a spray bottle of chlorine to disinfect the water spout either. Last year I saw a camper putting his stinky slinky right up to the campgrounds water spout to rinse it. After that I would turn on the water for a minute or so, and splash the water all over the spout before connecting my water line.
I now have a spray bottle with water and bleach to clean the spout before connecting my water hose.

Another thing that bugs me is campers that don't fix or replace their stinky slinkys. More that once I have seen them leaking all over the ground. Imagine you getting that campsite, maybe hours after they leave and laying your water hose right onto the ground where someone's sewer hose was leaking.

I always were rubber gloves and wipe down the hoses when pack'en up after camping.

Drummerman

[Mike I]

As an RV newbee, these are some great tips ..Thanks all...Will be picking up our new RV this weekend and taking our maiden voyage in two weeks ..

[C Nash]

Welcome to the wonderful world of rving Mike. Let us know how the maiden voyage turns out. What kind of RV are you picking up?

Chelse L. Nash
fulltimer03@yahoo.com

[Mike I]

Taking delivery today 6/14 of a Winnebego Brave at Suncoast RV in Jacksonville...Will let y'all know how the maiden voyage goes..Thanks all..

[fjohn56]

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I was just fooling around here! Didn't realize until recently that all you had to do for the icons was to click on the list, and then click on the icon. I had been doing it by the keyboard!
Learn something NEW every day.

John
42' CC Affinity Tag 2000
'88 Ford Escort LX
<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle> nevermind!

Edited by - fjohn56 on Sep 06 2002 4:09:29 PM

[Gary B]

Huh so did I! Thanks Fjohn56 GB
<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>:)<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle> Hey this is too much fun......

Happy trails GB

1994 Bounder 34J
1990 Mazda B2200 / BB

[Memoryof3theMan]

THANKS Gary, I'm sure glad you posted this. I have never even considered someone doing this, but will now.
Thanks again.

Happy Motoring
http://www.ezhitch.biz

[Cliff]

I too have never given it any thought before, but even with just my pop-up, I still use some FHU sites, and will now carry around a bottle of 25% chlorine solution too, Yuk... :dead:

[rwc454]

:blush: :blush: :blush: :laugh: :angry:

[cheezfri]

I'm not an RVer ===yet=== but I can tell you from my previous experience as a daycare provider that you must make a new solution of bleach water fresh every day. The Clorox will degrade and not kill the germies after about 24 hours.

[efelker]

My wife's a nurse -- Sherry is absolutely right. You need to make bleach water fresh every day -- and at the cost of bleach, it's no big expense.

And while you're at it -- I don't go near a water or sewer hookup without ruber disposal gloves on the hands. We keep at large box in the camper. Again, they are cheap and well worth the peace of mind.
:dead:

[Ken Powell]

Thats whats great baout having a Doc and a pill salesman as a bud you get the gloves free. I have a 95 HR DP and what baffels me is they put the fresh water and the flush connector next to each other in the same compartment as the black/gray water connector :clown: :clown: :dead:

[DAUNTIE]

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I WAS CAMPING WITH SOME FRIENDS AND THEY HAVE A CASSETTE TOILET. WHEN THEY EMPTIED IT, THEY STUCK THE WHOLE FAUCETT INSIDE THE NOZZLE TO FLUSH IT OUT. UGH!!! I WENT BACK WITH SOME CLOROX WIPES(DONT LEAVE HOME WITHOUT THEM)TO CLEAN IT OFF. SOME PEOPLE JUST DONT THINK.ALSO I NEVER GO TO THE SWIMMING HOLE WITHOUT A SHOPPING BAG TO PICK UP TRASH PEOPLE LEAVE BEHIND. :cool:

[John Harrelson]

Another good example of something I said 40 plus years ago.

<font color="red"><font size="4">"No matter how beautiful a herd of horses may be, there is always a jackauss in it somewhere"</font id="size4"></font id="red"> :disapprove:

[Russc]

Thanks for the wake up call. Have been rving for years and cannot believe I have never thought of this. :o

[Browzin]

For those of you that think spraying water hose connections with Clorox disinfects, you need to read this from Cornell Univ. Med. School.

http://www.med.cornell.edu/ehs/faq/biological_safety.htm

[C Nash]

Thanks Browzin, very useful information that I was not aware of.

[Kirk]

Browzin
Thanks for that link! It is especially interesting since the mix that I had was more than 8 months old and yet still smells of chlorine. Just as a test, I sprayed some colored cloth with the mixture to see if it still bleaches out the color. I would think that would give some indication of it's usefullness?

I read the entire site and it seems to say that it degrades in quality at a somewhat linear rate. I know one thing. I will be making a new mix at a much more frequent interval! I'll return and report the result of the test in a few days.

[Browzin]

Kirk
I already tested what I had mixed up (4mos old) and it will still bleach colors, the interesting point is the fact that it doesn't do it as quickly. (I tried it with a fresh mix as well). So assuming that Clorox is being 100% honest about the break down rate; in order to use a old 50/50 mix for disinfecting you would have to leave it on the surface for an extended period of time in order to achive the same results that you would with a fresh mix of 50/50. For myself, from now on, I will just use a smaller spray bottle and make it more often.

[zigzagrv]

We Americans are probably the cleanest culture in the world, sometimes to the point of being obsessive. Having known many people from other countries, I can attest to this. Deliberately 'dirtying' something others will use, such as the water faucet, is stupid and/or selfish, an attitude which seems to be on the increase.

However, when we eat out, do we really know how clean the plate and utensils are that have been used by thousands of others, or the food we eat from those plates? How about the door handle on public restrooms? We know not everyone washes their hands after using the toilet. What about the motel rooms we may stay in occasionally? The list of contaminated places we come in contact with every day is endless. We take for granted those places and people we come in contact with are looking out for our well being. But are they really? When we see things like putting the sewer hose over the drinking water supply, disregarding the health and safety of the next RVers to use it, we are rightfully upset and disgusted. Unfortunately, there is still no known cure for stupidity. That being said,if everyone used a little Common Sense, (getting harder to find)it would make life a little better and cleaner for all of us.

Ron

[rvlikens]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gary B

Its a good idea to have a spray bottle of chlorine water mixture with to spray down your water connetion before hooking up as some low life may have stuck his sewer hose over it to wash the hose down! We came across this a cople of days ago, not having a spray bottle with we requested and got another site, all around the fresh water faucet was toilet paper and other signs, not nice! Happy trails GB :(

Edited by - Gary B on Oct 26 2001 8:32:04 PM
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I'm sorta new to rv'ng (2 years now but outdoor camping with scouts for 8) but I thought cleaning potable drinking hoses, connections and containers with bleach was camping 101 stuff. I'm amazed at the people I see jump out after arriving and hooking up without cleaning the water supply device. If you have access to those cheap spong brushes, it works great to swab the inside and outside of your connections.

[scooterman]

Hello, New here, looking to buy a travel trailer, sure glad I read this, I'm a freak when it comes to germs, this is gross and I would probably not thought much about it but now thanks to everyone I have some good information, Need disposable gloves, fresh bleach mix, and cleaning stuff just in case, think when I do find an RV I'll make a care package, thanks again everyone. :blackeye:

[gilohatfield]

All of this information is great but there is a better product on the market. Quixtar (online shopping) Used to be AMWAY. Has a product call Pursue.
* Kills 20 different types of viruses, fungi, and bacteria (which can cause gastroenteritis, food poisoning, diarrhea, nausea, cramps, and vomiting) including: E. coli, Salmonella cholerasuis and S. schottmuelleri, Shigella dysenteriae, and Staphylococcus aureus
* Only household disinfectant recommended for sanitizing food contact surfaces that does not require rinsing or wipint therefore, it reduces the hazards of cross-contamination from surfaces.
* Certified Kosher (if you care) Shelve life is years which is not affected by bing mixed.

Downside is you need to have a members number to purchase the product. Not a big problem to find one or you can become one.

It is never good to play around with your health

[wtpops]

Hello here is my 20 cents figure mine is worth more. have been a water treatment plant operator for 17 years. Us chlorine for disifection of public water. bleach is a good disinfectant its about 5% chlorine, dont dilute it. If you do you will have to remix about every 24 hours. you loose strength. if you spray on hose bibs and hoses you will very rarely get a taste if you do just let water run will go away fast. one thing to remember cripto and gerdea are cists that are resistant to chlorine. revirse osmoses filter under sink best way to be safe

[TexasClodhopper]

The problem I see with Clorox is my brass fitting start corroding if I don't get them rinsed off.

[SnowbirdInFlight]

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Hello here is my 20 cents figure mine is worth more. have been a water treatment plant operator for 17 years. Us chlorine for disifection of public water. bleach is a good disinfectant its about 5% chlorine, dont dilute it. If you do you will have to remix about every 24 hours. you loose strength. if you spray on hose bibs and hoses you will very rarely get a taste if you do just let water run will go away fast. one thing to remember cripto and gerdea are cists that are resistant to chlorine. revirse osmoses filter under sink best way to be safe <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Hey, what about just plain alcohol? Would that disinfect as well as bleach? Also like TexasClodhopper said will the bleach corrode the metal over a period of time, even if it IS rinsed off immediately?

[DL Rupper]

I use a spray bottle with 90% alcohol to spray the water taps before connecting the fresh water hose. Also spray the hose connections before and after use. I posted a similar topic (Filthy Sewer Hose) on the General Rv'ing forum before finding this one. Happy Camping :clown: :laugh:

[janlarmil]

We use the clorox wipes. They maintain their disinfictant capability and are easy to use.
Besides the pigs who stick their hoses over the potable water spigot, recently saw one dump his tanks in a WalMart parking lot! Raised hell with him but he couldnt care less. Took his plate number and gave it to the store manager. Hope they hung him. :(

[Tassiedevil]

Boy oh boy,do we have alot to learn before we head off RVing in your beautiful country, we had no idea people could be so stupid or thoughtless, these people must be a few sandwiches short of a picnic, hope they're not Aussies!!!!!

[hertig]

It's the culture here. Nothing is ever my fault, it's the government's fault, or society's fault, or that guy's/company's fault, so I better sue; make me rich (or at least my lawyer).

If I have no responsibility for my actions, then I can do whatever I feel like or whatever is conveniant. I don't even have to think about what I'm doing, the lawyers will take care of everything.

[Tassiedevil]

Aussie's have just started to get the sueing mentality and I hate to say it guys I think we caught off America, we would see stories about people sueing for this and that especially medical mishaps ,being a theatre sister for 25 yrs I would hear from our surgeons who went to the US to train how scared they would be to a surgeon over there as people are so quick to sue. As you say people have to be responsible for there own stupidity but try learn from there mistakes. Do they have signs to remind these thoughtless people about what they should and should not do at the parks when it comes to water connections at the RV sites. Perhaps they should presume that everyone is stupid and need to be continually reminded.

[cybercelt]

If what is on the water faucet bothers you, you should see what is in the water... I use a filter that screens out the big things and bring drinking water from a source I trust.

[riggarob]

:evil: Devils advocate, here. Zigzagrv is right about other things we don't think about. I was in the Corps ('68/9) in Viet Nam. We used to "burn the sh*tters", then go eat, drink, or whatever. Think about all of the countries that have no clean drinking water, and yet somehow we all seem to survive. As a country, Americans are getting "way to clean". Anti-b's for every sore throat, anti-b hand cleaner (that isn't effective, btw). Anti-b's don't even work on virus's, yet we insist that the Dr. give us some for a cold anyway. My point?... the cleaner we get, the less prepared our immune system is going to be, to fight off the harmful stuff, on it's own. I know this will start a HUGH argument, and I by no means condon using the drinking faucet to clean your sh*t hose. I would probably get in a lot of trouble if I saw someone pull that stunt! BUT, sometimes you just have to get a life. Trugged the filty rice paddies w/ human, and animal excrament, and I'm still here. AND, think of all the times you guys DID use the contaminated faucet, and you're still here! Semper Fi, and happy motoring!

[pldoolittle]

I gotta jump in here. This has been studied ad nauseum in the pressure washing industry where the difference between 10% and 12% is significant. Bleach degrades, but unless exposed to heat and heavy sunlight, it does so over a 12 month period. And the rate of degradation is realative to the concentration. 15% degrades to 12% in hours-days, 12% degrades in weeks-months. 10% over a period of ~6 month, and so on. A 2% solution stored in a cool dark place should remain viable for YEARS.

Also, bleach does NOT become less of a disinfectant above 2%. Above 2% is less cost effective as is wasteful, but 12% bleach will burn flesh in seconds and completely decompose heavy organic material like leaves in minutes. A poor little e-coli bacterium doesn't stand a chance.

That said, chemical decomtamination requires contact. If there are little terd-bits on the faucet they will be squeaky clean on the outside until you smash them with the faucet threads or your fingers....

[detmer]

:) :bleh: :bleh:

[tiki]

:) Does anyone consider the usage of isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) in a small bottle and some gauze pads to wipe out the faucets before using? Takes very little room to store with my rubber gloves and the alcohol doesn't seem to deteriorate rapidly with age and heat inside your storage areas.

[riggarob]

Hi. Only 91% alcohol might do it.

[rlmurraysr59]

I'm not real sure I understand what is being discussed here. When I am ready to leave a campsite I disconnect my water hose from the motorhome. I disconnect the sewer hose from the motorhome. I use my water hose that is connected to the water outlet to rinse the inside of my sewer hose while it is still connected to the sewer pipe, but I don't put my water hose inside my sewer hose. And I carry a can of Lysol and rubber gloves with me at all times. Just don't know why anyone would disconnect their sewer hose and then put it by the water faucet to rinse it out. Not very effective and you are going to wind up with some sh*t on the ground if there happens to be a little stuck in the hose. People think they are immune to germs and disease? :angry: :question:

[hertig]

No, some people are stupid, lazy, slobs who don't care what impact they have on others.

If you are careful, your method of cleaning will probably not cause you any problems. However, to be even safer, you could use a 'gray' hose to clean your sewer pipe. Also, a bacteria rated water filter on the input to your trailer will further reduce your risk, including from the group of (alleged) people mentioned above :)